This is a very interesting distinction! nonetheless, I'm wondering, in the space opera example.. aren't swords and the domestication of horses somehow a product of technologically-applied, systematic knowledge (e.g., to some extent, science)? Also, sometimes I like to think of science (both science in a broad, inclusive sense, and science in terms of positivism and empiricism) as the cumulative achievement of a specific type of segmented fantasies… In positivism, this specific type has to do with thinking that everything can be understood in terms of intellect, and that humans can predict and control anything if it is sufficiently studied and understood…

Fantasy, of course, surpasses science. But I think that a lot of the things that seem normal and scientific to some groups of people seem rather fantastic to others… think pyramids, spaceships, telepathy, splitting the atom, precognitive knowledge…

Wow. Great comment. Thank you for actually taking the time to think about it.

When you put it like that, I'd have to agree with you. To some extent science has to be involved in most stories considered fantasy. I like to think you have to know the rules (science) you are breaking before you can break them in fantasy (like: How do dragons fly? Answer could be huge wing span that supports its body mass, or magically defies gravity). If you don't know why things work in fantasy, by applying a scientific thought processes to them, they probably won't make sense to the reader… even if you never mention the “why”.

Still, publishers have to draw a line somewhere or everything would be either science fiction or fantasy.

Thanks for commenting.

Yes, I totally see your point.. that is one of the main things that words do, after all! draw lines between this and that and give us a way to refer to ourselves and what we experience. Not having words to describe our experiences, or the existence of something, is really a tough situation… how do you explain it? how do you think about it? how do you even remember it? you can speak of noisy silver birds and bleeding sticks if lacking the words “airplane” and “pen”…

Part of my interest in visual art lies precisely in this – wanting to express things I have no words for. To some extent, I think fantasy can do this too. The way I see it, fantasy brings the unknown a lot closer – for it begins to take shape, and when it's in writing, it begins to take names. and i guess scifi somehow takes fantasy into the realm of the plausible given X and Y that we already take as granted. I think that in some cases, science draws both fantasy and sci fi … and finds a way to make it happen. I really want to read the “Gift of Talismans” and see how you give fantasy a sci fi twist!

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i'm inclined to agree with you about fantasy, science fiction, and horror.

i happen to be a fan of all 3 catagories and enjoy watching them on tv whether it be a dvd or something that happens to be on the tube. i must say they are my favorite kinds of movies.

i'm inclined to agree with you about fantasy, science fiction, and horror.

i happen to be a fan of all 3 catagories and enjoy watching them on tv whether it be a dvd or something that happens to be on the tube. i must say they are my favorite kinds of movies.